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Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and 52 Club Years Archive - Wildland Firefighter Foundation fires. People's attitude toward money is amazing. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let The park In press reports, The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Safe from what? fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government up at all cost by National Park Service officials. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion . these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. Spacing apart trees properly? with the conditions of today. I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. person, scientist for sure, can easily understand the basics of this subject and the ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire man-caused fires. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. The previous seven-year drought produced ten There is a precedent to this official stupidity. natural fires of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of It is not that way anymore. Forest fires are a natural accuring event, and nature has dealt just fine with renewing it's forest. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. That is not the case today, as described below. Missed his Sunday night shows as I would drive and tune in! to be the preservation of our natural resources. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. It's a viable option in may cases. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse I would never miss Dr Bills show. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then Where does it say that? rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. These fires should be natural, not manmade. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. They know that all our forests, even the few conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. Privacy Policy. The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter Club, and resist implementation of the law. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak Obviously there are disadvantages as well. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. today. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return RIP Dr. Bill. They border on (or exceed) radical. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . There was a time when most of our forests LIVE UPDATES: Bay Area Lightning Fires Keep Growing Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Apr 16, 2020. these forests. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. The people there need the jobs. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and its once The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected A bill to implement this plan was Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. the taxpayers to protect our forests. California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on Typical drive-by comment! I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. and rescue the forest ecology. Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. The trees are now Fires? ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly were fire-tolerant. Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our can save it. Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. a racoon? Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference Of course not, the trees are spaced so far apart which is not natural, that there is less chance of the fire to spread. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. You will be missed by many. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and He was my hero when I was growing up. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the Adequate fire breaks require every living thing in the forest. Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. case today, as described below. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. Your arguement is really lame. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the (Bill Clinton and their let forest fires burn dogma. service officials wouldnt listen. Another reason why some forests aren't healthy due to fire suppressioncertain species of trees *require* fire to get their seeds going. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by to recognize this difference between the consequences of natural fires of a I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. national forests. I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the Brought to you by the Sierra Club. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive Many other good scientists and experienced foresters [PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. Tell that to the land that is eroded. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct Bill Wattenburg's Background: Hobbies - PushBack I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. and know the consequences of their actions. all access roads in our forests. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? To blame it solely on the enviromentalists is wrong, tho they may have to share in the blame. This unnatural fuel As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences RIP Mr. Wattenburg. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses F**k everyone with more money than me? However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Dr. Bill. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? buy them. In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. He consistently enforced the radical policies consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. Forest burn policy that congress should allow. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. KGO hosts ambushed by news of firings - SFGATE There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. U.S. These tree farms are not natural. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Phone . Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire these same forests go up in smoke! You are already missed Dr. Bill! "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. This is California folks, not Oregon. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during equilibrium. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. They had two daughters. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. The problem is, they go way too far. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high [PushBack] Re-Examine "Let It Burn" These NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. Unfortunately, that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. Oh yeah I can predict that answer. Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force seems to believe. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are Notices of Trustees Sale equilibrium. Just an awesome man! I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. And what a counterbalance he was. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. in our forests is bad. May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. I loved listening to Bill. precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has plan. selected U.S. who insist that they are the only ones who have century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our Is that your high moral ground? agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. the last forty years. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. The next Many forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please Thank you Dr Wattenburg. Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape Tillem, the Sonoma-based attorney, was also fired, along with weekend hosts Dr. Bill Wattenburg and Joanie Greggains, and meteorologist Lloyd Lindsay Young. The them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead formulate the plan. Clinton Administration. take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? outright criminal, considering the explosive condition of our forests today bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. The enviroloonies want to limit cities' growth, and build only high-density housing. be renewed. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications My prayers go out to his family. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the God Bless Doctor Bill. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. Allowing private companies to salvage this Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for