Whether you are the religion these campuses represent or not. Id go ahead and start packing. To create a healthy environment for our students, and in some cases to comply with the Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act of 1989, Public Law 101-226, Cedarville University adheres to the following guidelines for all undergraduate students and graduate students enrolled in degree programs on campus, including those students who do not live in campus housing. Here are just four, from least to most problematic: In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. Court documents are revealing new details about a stabbing that sent a Cedarville University student to the hospital this week. Sports is taken seriously and we do very well in the Div One level.Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow etcthese are outstanding Christian athletes/men and went to secular schoolsyou dont have to be christian and goto to a christian college to stay christian.some students like the positive atmosphere and some just like the locationeveryone has their own preference. Im thinking that the author of this either made up some bs to get people riled, or got his hands on a 40yr-old student manual. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. They try to teach young adults how to dress in the business world when I went. Attending chapel is mandatory, and it is heavily suggested that not participating in other Christian ceremonies or functions is highly frowned upon. They completely reach into the personal lives and convictions of their students, demanding that they refrain from such so-called perversions such as premarital sex, extramarital sex (even if both parties agree to an open relationship), and homosexuality. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth. Jerry, Im sorry you and your wife had problems at Asbury. Amos prophecy describes the restoration of Gods people as involving drinking wine. This is taken from the oru web site . She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. For this, I say thank you. Men may not grow their sideburns past their earlobes, have hair covering their ears, or keep moustaches beyond the corners of their mouths. Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex must receive permission from their families and keep it on file with the school as well.. They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. I graduated from ORU, great school! Then in a moment of disturbingyet not uncommonhypocrisy and contradiction, the next sentence reads, All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. Unless, apparently, you violate a non-Biblically based rule and are expelled from the University. Students are not allowed to use, purchase, share, or possess alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, or any illegal drug on or off campus. *, You may use these HTML tags and attributes:
. To try to fix me, I was taken to a church, beat, water thrown on me, dragged to a stage and forced to confess things Id never done. Wow. I obtain an Associate degree of Theology, and have done subjects to obtain my bachelor Look at the corrupt Catholic Church, and look at how many pastors are child molesters. Feb 25 (Sat) 3:00 PM. This was not a good recipe for being a successful artist. Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. There are as many answers as there are people to consider the questions, because the world exists in shades of grey. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. If they have agreed to attend the college, then they have agreed to live by the rules laid out by the college for the duration of their time there. (Aldair Zepeda/WWMT) "To those we lost to those healing," added were the names of the three killed in the shooting, Brian . Facebook. The suspect in the deadly Michigan State campus shooting, who later died at a Lansing location, was a 43-year-old man, Michigan State University Interim Deputy Police Chief Chris Rozman said at a . Not sure why you find prohibition of Occult practices to be a bad thing for those attending a Christian university. If your God did these things (and science shows Sodom was the victim of a meteor strike, not magic) that makes your God evil and you should be ashamed to be promoting evil and defending the murder of gay people. I cant believe you missed out on Bob Jones U finally lifting their ban on interracial dating JUST ten years ago. I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. Just like if we do a 270 double front flip on our jet ski, we are no better or worse off. Comments? Adding onto my last post you must have been reading a 40 year old manual when you wrote this stuff about Asbury. I have a mission that I am just now working on, and Ive been at the glance out for such information.|. Either way, check your facts before you publish. Ten. You arent allowed to have your own opinions about anything and creativity and individuality is totally stifled. And finally Neither freshmen nor sophomores are permitted to drive cars to work, either. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. No college is perfect, Clothing should be gender appropriate. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. [Emphases in original.] The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. Reviewed: 9/28/2019. For example, skirts/dresses should fall mid-thigh, midriff and underwear should not show, leggings/tights should have a skirt, dress, or shirt over top that falls mid-thigh (except during exercise), and shirts should not be low-cut and should have modest straps. The Sobering truth of Cedarville's Archaic Prohibition Rules Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. (We had not had sex for those who was wondering) I was on the phone with him in my dorm room and my RA overheard our conversation. BUT, if you are homosexual, they wont kick you off campus. But even there the use of the f word would have resulted in expulsion from class. Students who engage in underage drinking or provide alcohol to underage individuals may be subject to legal sanctions in addition to University penalties. Manifestation of modesty includes seeking to adorn the Gospel by placing emphasis on the condition of ones heart expressed by living with humility in attitude, behavior, and dress (Prov. Sickening!!! They also will not do anything to you for supporting it as they follow Christs example in loving everyone and not judging others for their beliefs. The place else may just I am getting that kind of information written in such an ideal manner? If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. Social and dance clubs as well face quite a bit of consternation. I know people are given the choice/make the decision to attend these schools, but they just sound so old-fashioned and boring. I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. In addition, our campus culture supports the professional development of students and allows faculty to communicate additional dress guidelines for classes that are consistent with the course objectives. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. D.A. How could she possibly have had the time to worry about not being able to see a R rated movie or go clubbing. Information Technology. I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. Its part of the colleges curriculum, just like a class, due to the college aiming for both academic AND spiritual growth. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. If a disciple of Christ becomes odious to others because of the radical measures that Christ calls us to, he will have followed the footsteps of his master; indeed, what else could be expected of him? Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. If such is the case with these schools, then it cannot be argued that they are in anyway unfair in strictly enforcing the rules. Articles are submitted and written anonymously in order to protect the identities of students and non-students alike who could face backlash or punishment for expressing their viewpoints that differ in any way from Cedarville University. Keep up the good work! I respect your opinion and where its coming from. Good for them, I applaud them. 2023 Softball Schedule - Cedarville University Athletics The admission office refused to release the student handbook until one signed on the dotted line, feet on campus for semester orientation and parents away from campus. No they really dont. Homosexuality is also wrong,because it upset God to the extent of destroying sodom and gomorah. No TEA???? We all wore makeup, etc. However, I dont think its quite as strict as some of the other colleges on this list, notably 1 3. I love the Godly atmosphere it gives, and completely disagree with you. What rules are they not so strict on? There wasnt anything there that drove me crazy. Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. They also require the students to dress up for all morning classes, no matter what the class was too. There is a fence with razor wire enclosing the entire campus. However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. I attended Pensacola Christian College in the early 1980s. Im bruised by the experience yet my wife was forever changed. The bible is the guideline to these rules. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. Theese rules are ridiculous, esp. They make you go to chapel church services every single day, and some days you have to go to church more than once, the only exception is if you are sick enough to be in the infirmary. You heard about how bad these schools are from people who got kicked out? For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. The university itself is also strongly anti-alcohol, arguing that consumption of alcohol is inconsistent with a Biblical lifestyle, even though Jesus drank wine and the Bible is filled with positive references to alcohol. Additionally, using any source (such as D.A. __________________________ Welcome to Cedarville University, an exceptional Christian university in southwest Ohio. God created dance. The rule is not to Bible-thump students into submission and control. DO you know what these strict colleges are invoking by making these kinds of religious standards? He turned water into wine. I have met people that go to PCC and they have all said only good things about it. I forget to mention the school name Christian Woah this blog is great i really like reading your posts. Religion is a choice not a punishment and certainly it is not a requirement if I am not mistaken by my own logic as well as using the bible as a reference would God really want you to be FORCED and REQUIRED to worship him in the ways others want you too? Honestly, this is lazy journalism. When so-called Christians give up murder & pork; & they begin smoting doves, I might start believing them. Giving into that division will never bring peace. However, responsible use is not sinful, which is our primary point in this article. REUTERS/Dieu-Nalio Chery Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. I do believe Cedarville gets a lot of things right, especially in the area of academics. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. People have parties all the time. All men and women are expected to dress modestly, stay well-groomed, and avoid tattoos and body piercings. Oddly left out are West Point Academy, Air Force Academy and other military schools. Its that simple. EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) The 43-year-old gunman who killed three students and wounded five others at Michigan State University had no apparent connection to the campus, police said Tuesday as they searched for a motive for shootings that terrified the community for hours.. Investigators were sorting out why Anthony McRae fired inside an academic building and the student union just before 8 . For one year, I attended a college that was, easily, as strict as any of the above. Feel free to email me at [emailprotected]. Is there something wrong here? On a related note, outright banning things often just makes them more appealing. If you dont like it find somewhere else to go to college. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. I wonder how they deal with Darwins theory? They have separated beaches for the men and women. "It was the Woman" - The Blame Game that Started with Eve You can view it here. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. I was a student of your college from 1990 to 1997. NOT even accurate. Students struggling with drug or alcohol use may obtain confidential support at Counseling Services and University Medical Services. I could go on, but. Perhaps they are harmless. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. Stay up the great paintings! Some people feel safer if there isnt a lot of drinking and other rowdiness going on. Students are expected to be honest and truthful in all forms of communication (verbal or written). Whoever wrote this had the facts waaaay off about Liberty U. 2 min read. Most of my serious infractions involved demerits for not emptying the trash, not having two feet on the floor at morning light bell, hair touching my eyebrows and humming along to my roommate playing Dust in the Wind on his guitar. degree, but never got it. If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. IT IS WRONG. Every college and university around the world expects its students to uphold certain standards. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. and the campus is primarily pro-life, yes. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. Violations of these guidelines may result in dismissal. I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. They make you go to bed by 11pm every night, even on weekends, no matter what homework projects you may may be working on, no matter what, no exceptions, unless you want demerits. Both my wife and I are hurt! "Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing," the handbook reads. If your radar is accurate, it will not take you long to bag a highly-repressed freak. I was kicked out of BJU twice and finally asked to not come back to finish my JR semester. These are CHRISTIAN colleges: did you expect them to accept homosexuality, occultism, and premarital sex? Its your belief. Even if this situation only befalls a small proportion of the students who attend, it is bad enough that it is a significant threat. Unfortunately, many forms of dancing are closely associated with things that undermine godliness. As one of the underground liberal minority at the college, I disagreed with almost all the guidelines. Alcohol is held up as equally detrimental as illegal substances regardless of whether or not a student partakes responsibly and remains at or above the drinking age and the University does not discriminate on whether or not consumption or possession takes place on- or off-campus, either. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. BUT, they do not have any rules against you watching them on your own, or even on things like violent video games. Cedarville does their best to preserve their image among students, and that is a precaution that I dont think is unreasonable. They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. 2nd Just because something is legal doesnt make it good for you. Access Gmail. Finally she taught me how to take a hard anal fucking so I would be ready for a fundie husband some day. Expressions of dance performed in a manner that honors God and promotes holiness are permitted. Um, we dance at ORU. Treating free-willed adults as if petulant children incapable of forging their own individual perceptions, decisions, and behaviors.. Access Canvas. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal." Many who attend the strictest places were either home-schooled or went to hard-line fundy christian schools and churches their whole life. To be sure, the school was known more for its strict rules back in the 1980s than for its educational prowess, and those rules were sexist (women had to wear skirts) and ridiculous (movie theatres were banned but VCRs weren't). In addition, attendance at parties, clubs, casinos, restaurants, and bars is expressly prohibited except when no alcohol is present. However, no mention is made of men wearing very short shorts or tank tops that expose most of their upper body. Penalties may include fines and/or imprisonment. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. What a way to treat women like children incapable of making their own decisions! It always has been, and always will be. That seems a tiny bit stricter than telling Christians to come to church once or twice a week. My mothers beliefs were disliked, so when I became an orphan I was put into foster care by my family and forbidden to speak with my cousins or brother; I was a gateway for satan to taint them.. at 12 years old. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Sobering truth of Cedarvilles Archaic Prohibition Rules. Your email address will not be published. Cedarville University - RationalWiki Registrar's Office. 2:310; 1 Pet. Good job elarning to sneak though. Seriously. A student may be subject to involuntary withdrawal from the University or from University housing if the student engages or threatens to engage in the following: Behavior that poses a danger of causing physical harm to self or others. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. However, while I appreciate the desire to have a biblically based view on alcohol, I do believe this article misses the heart behind the rule of abstaining from alcohol while being a student at Cedarville. You willingly agree to their rules when you come here and they arent a secret. These risks include, but are not limited to, physical and mental dependency, damage to the heart and lungs, and, in some cases, death. In this article, our anonymous author discusses the practical, common sense issues with the policy, the detailed policy issues within the student handbook, and a Biblical review of the alcoholic prohibition instated at Cedarville. Smoking is legal, but people die from it. For any college that you are considering, know before you go. Still having nightmares. But its greatly changed now. Cedarville University is a Christian university located in Cedarville, Ohio. While this is a nice general principle, it is not full proof. Christians not overtaken by an archaic dislike of alcohol from the 1920s can read this passage and apply it to Cedarville in this way: Students should not drink with students who are not legally allowed to do so and students should not drink too much alcohol, thereby maintaining self-control over their bodies. But honestly, the teachers and student body are just as lenient about the rule as they are in K-12 schools. 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. Where did you hear that we couldnt?!?! Cedarville ought to take this Biblical message to heart and change their policies to allow responsible use of alcohol. All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. 3:3; Titus 1:7; 1 Pet. Part-timers or those with special circumstances must do so on days when their classes do not begin until after noon. Other than in the residence halls, shirts should be worn everywhere on campus, including the Callan Athletic Center. I Attended LMU in Los Angeles we do to have strict rules about clothes we can wear pants So nyah nyah yah. My e-mail address is Like, in this example, students deciding its very unlikely that Oral Roberts raised the dead during his ministry, which would make their college named after a liar. Emergency personnel respond to a shooting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, U.S., February 13, 2023. The problems arise when we disregard our fellow believers who are of weaker conscience. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. According to the student handbook, "Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Student Handbook and Online Resources | Cedarville University No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. Dry Town: Why Cedarville Township exists as one of only hundreds of dry towns in the U.S. Students re-paint 'The Rock' at Michigan State University, Feb. 15, 2023. Cedarville's policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ.